Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/29/2003 03:10 PM House HES

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HB 233-INCREASE EDUCATION FUNDING                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0096                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR GATTO  announced  that the  first  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL  NO.  233, "An  Act  relating  to the  base                                                               
student  allocation used  in  the formula  for  state funding  of                                                               
public education; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  presented CSHB  233(EDU) on behalf  of the                                                               
sponsor, Representative  Peggy Wilson,  who had been  excused due                                                               
to illness, and answered questions  by the members.  He explained                                                               
that CSHB 233(EDU)  is the legislation created  by a subcommittee                                                               
of  the  House Special  Committee  on  Education to  generate  an                                                               
increase in the  foundation formula.  He said  there is consensus                                                               
that  education needs  more funding.   Implementation  of the  No                                                               
Child Left Behind  Act (NCLB) will be costly for  districts.  The                                                               
House Special  Committee on Education  and the  subcommittee only                                                               
looked at  the budget for  the Department of Education  and Early                                                               
Development (EED) for funds to  increase the funding formula.  He                                                               
said the  committee rolled  the $23.3 million  that was  used for                                                               
Learning Opportunity Grants (LOGs)  last year into the foundation                                                               
formula.   This  was the  subject of  HB 26,  then-Representative                                                               
[now Senator]  Gary Stevens's  bill.   The committee  also placed                                                               
$2.2  million  of  the  $3.9  million in  savings  that  will  be                                                               
generated  by  removing  the   option  of  two-year  kindergarten                                                               
programs [HB 154] into the  foundation formula.  These funds will                                                               
hold all  the districts  harmless so  that districts  which would                                                               
have lost money as the system goes  from a per student basis to a                                                               
formula basis  will not.   The  other $1.7  million that  will be                                                               
saved  by  eliminating  the  two-year  kindergarten  program  was                                                               
rolled into the formula as well.   This resulted in an additional                                                               
$8 per student.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  summarized his comments by  saying that by                                                               
rolling in the $3.9 million,  plus the $6 million in supplemental                                                               
funding  from  last year  and  the  $23.3  million in  LOGs,  the                                                               
committee came up  with a new base student  allocation of $4,168.                                                               
He said the  committee was able to do this  without going outside                                                               
EED's budget,  which has already  been approved in  the operating                                                               
budget that went  over to the other body.   Representative Seaton                                                               
told the committee  the figures are the same on  the fiscal note.                                                               
He  referred the  committee to  a calculation  from Eddie  Jeans,                                                               
EED, on  how the committee came  up with the $4,168  per student,                                                               
which adds an additional $158 per student.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR GATTO  commented that  this bill  is complicated  and                                                               
asked  if  anyone  needs Representative  Seaton  to  clarify  any                                                               
portion of his presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0454                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE OSSIANDER, President, Association  of Alaska School Boards                                                               
(AASB),  testified  in  favor  of   CSHB  233(EDU)  and  answered                                                               
questions  from  the  members.     She  told  the  committee  the                                                               
association's top  priority is  adequate sustainable  funding and                                                               
this bill is a  good step in the right direction.   She said they                                                               
are very supportive of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER   told  the  committee  inflationary   costs  have                                                               
increased approximately  30 percent  over the  past 10  years and                                                               
state  funding  has  not  kept up  with  both  inflationary  cost                                                               
increases and  increases in  fixed costs.   Districts  across the                                                               
state  are  no longer  able  to  offer the  competitive  salaries                                                               
needed to  get staff in  remote locations  of the state  and into                                                               
difficult to  fill positions.   There  are increasing  numbers of                                                               
children  with special  needs  and  limited English  proficiency,                                                               
which are  incredible challenges.   Ms.  Ossiander said  that she                                                               
knows the committee is very well  aware of the NCLB Act mandates,                                                               
which are  [being imposed  on] the  state without  adequate money                                                               
from the  federal government.   Furthermore, this is a  time when                                                               
schools are grappling with the  Quality Schools Initiative.  Many                                                               
school districts  do not have  adequate infrastructure to  do the                                                               
data collection  that is required  by [NCLB Act].   The districts                                                               
will  be  required to  provide  remediation  far beyond  what  is                                                               
possible  for every  single  student as  well  as compel  student                                                               
attendance.   She  told the  committee that  the association  was                                                               
extremely  alarmed by  the governor's  budget, which  had another                                                               
significant  reduction for  education.    Ms. Ossiander  directed                                                               
attention to the  AASB report which includes  an impact statement                                                               
regarding  the effects  of the  state's current  fiscal condition                                                               
for each  district.   The association  separated out  the various                                                               
budgets  among  the  House,  the  Senate,  and  the  governor  by                                                               
district  to  show  the  members  graphically  exactly  what  the                                                               
results  of the  funding would  be.   In  summary, Ms.  Ossiander                                                               
announced that AASB is very much  in support of this bill because                                                               
an increase in the base student allocation is very much needed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0634                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO commented that  a fair  amount of the  money to                                                               
increase the base student allocation  results from the rolling of                                                               
the LOGs into  the foundation formula.  It is  not new money, but                                                               
old money with a new label.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER replied  that AASB  is completely  aware of  that.                                                               
She said  two months ago she  would have requested that  the bill                                                               
be amended to  increase funding.  However,  the governor's budget                                                               
caused such  fear that right now  AASB can see that  the cut will                                                               
not be horrendous.  Ideally, AASB  would like to see more funding                                                               
to  address inflation  as well  as an  inflationary index  in the                                                               
foundation funding  formula.   She said AASB  believes it  is not                                                               
only justifiable, but a requisite.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO asked  Ms. Ossiander  if she  knew how  the new                                                               
[base student allocation] in CSHB  233(EDU) compared with all the                                                               
monies  received  in the  prior  year  minus  all the  cuts  that                                                               
districts took.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER related her understanding  that this is roughly the                                                               
same  amount  with  the  exception  of the  FY  04  reduction  in                                                               
statewide  student transportation,  which  will be  approximately                                                               
$4.5 million.   This bill rolls in the LOGs,  adds in monies from                                                               
additional  sources,  and  has  a  hold  harmless  provision  for                                                               
schools  that would  have lost  funds due  to the  rolling in  of                                                               
LOGs.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0738                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR GATTO commented that he  believes it was only $11 that                                                               
was required  to make  a transfer  of the LOGs  a zero  impact on                                                               
some school  districts.  Over the  years there has been  a lot of                                                               
pressure from  the districts  to roll the  LOGs into  the formula                                                               
because districts  believe they are protected;  however, they are                                                               
not.   He said the formula  is not protected and  it is important                                                               
to get  the message out that  every single year it  is subject to                                                               
appropriation  by the  legislature.   While  all the  legislators                                                               
here strongly favor funding for  education, it is a serious risk.                                                               
Vice Chair  GATTOcomplimented the  hard work  of the  members who                                                               
put  the committee  substitute together.   He  said that  it will                                                               
still be  necessary to  get the  other body  and the  governor to                                                               
agree.  It is hard work.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER made a final  comment to the committee, saying that                                                               
as an  elected school  board member  for the  last 10  years, her                                                               
biggest personal challenge has been  the inability to do adequate                                                               
budget  forecasting  because  funding  for  school  districts  is                                                               
dependent on so many external factors.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  GATTO  pointed  out   that  [school  funding]  is  a                                                               
challenge  when  the state  asks  the  school district  how  many                                                               
students it will have at a time when it does not know.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0909                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director, Association  of  Alaska  School                                                               
Boards, testified  on CSHB 233(EDU)  and answered  questions from                                                               
the  committee.   He  told the  committee that  AASB  has had  68                                                               
elected school board  members and their chief  executives in town                                                               
to talk  about their  concerns on  education.   Mr. Rose  said he                                                               
sent out  an impact statement  with a cover letter  thanking many                                                               
of the  members for  their hard  work.   The association  is very                                                               
concerned with the plight of education.   In the last week or two                                                               
there  has  been  a  great  amount  of  movement.    He  said  he                                                               
appreciates this.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE  commented  that  young   people  are  called  to  meet                                                               
standards.     The  issues  of  accountability   and  quality  of                                                               
education are  serious.  The  responsibility to the  young people                                                               
of the state is serious and  he knows that the members know that.                                                               
It appears that  when looking at the challenges of  the NCLB Act,                                                               
the Individuals  with Disabilities Education Act  (IDEA), Quality                                                               
Initiatives, benchmark  testing, and High School  Qualifying Exam                                                               
are  good   measures  if  funded   appropriately.     The  impact                                                               
statements  that  AASB sent  out  suggests  that under  the  hold                                                               
harmless  scenario,  there are  serious  and  deep reductions  in                                                               
opportunities for young people.   Mr. Rose said what is happening                                                               
now is  that the districts  are looking at reading,  writing, and                                                               
mathematics offerings  being seriously hampered.   There are some                                                               
real challenges ahead for the legislature and the state.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  told the committee  that many of  the 48 states  with a                                                               
deficit have  alarming deficits [and  those states don't  have] a                                                               
permanent fund.  In Alaska, he  said he views the capacity to tax                                                               
as a  favorable option.   Furthermore,  using the  permanent fund                                                               
strategically is  a real opportunity  to move the state  where it                                                               
needs to go.  Mr. Rose  acknowledged that the politics of getting                                                               
there is  very difficult.   Nonetheless, AASB wants to  work with                                                               
the  legislature,  which  is  why  AASB  distributed  the  impact                                                               
statements  as  purely an  advisory  statement  on the  kinds  of                                                               
impacts the districts  are going through.  These  impacts are not                                                               
limited to  just this  year, he  noted.  Next  year and  the year                                                               
after does  not look much better.   He urged the  members to look                                                               
at how to bridge the gap between now and 10 years out.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE turned to the issues that  will be coming up as a result                                                               
of the  reduction in  funding.   Although everyone  wants smaller                                                               
class size, every time there is  a reduction in funding the money                                                               
comes from  the classroom.   The latitude that has  been explored                                                               
over  the  last  10  years   has  included  retirement  incentive                                                               
programs  (RIP)  to create  savings  by  hiring less  experienced                                                               
people  for less  money.   However,  now AASB  is  coming to  the                                                               
legislature asking  for incentives to  hire some of  those people                                                               
back to help bridge the gap.   Therein is the essence of what the                                                               
committee is  talking about  today.  The  people who  have served                                                               
their entire  lives in the  profession are now being  called upon                                                               
to come  back and fill  the gap because the  education profession                                                               
is not attractive  enough for young people.   Therefore, there is                                                               
a recruitment dilemma.  With  regard to adequacy of funding, [the                                                               
inadequacy of funding] is taking its toll on the entire system.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1198                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE thanked  the committee  for  allowing him  the time  to                                                               
share  AASB's concerns.   He  told  the committee  the House  and                                                               
Senate have done good work; however,  it does not meet the needs.                                                               
Although  this [bill]  is good  work  with regard  to where  AASB                                                               
thought it  was, the  challenges still lay  ahead for  the state.                                                               
He  relayed   that  AASB  wants   to  commit  to   assisting  the                                                               
legislature in any way it can [with education funding].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO responded  that he  thinks Mr.  Rose's comments                                                               
are good  ones.  He  noted that Mr.  Rose travels all  around the                                                               
country  and he  has worked  for AASB  [since 1974].   Therefore,                                                               
Vice  Chair Gatto  said  he believes  Mr.  Rose's experience  and                                                               
history places him  in a unique position to  [propose] some ideas                                                               
to the  legislature.  More  than anyone else Mr.  Rose recognizes                                                               
that the  $2 million barrels a  day is only $1  million barrels a                                                               
day now and that is the  state's funding source.  The legislature                                                               
is faced with the terrible problem  of trying to fund things with                                                               
half the income.  The  question becomes what will the legislature                                                               
do when  the reserves  run ou,  which is  why the  legislature is                                                               
asking school boards, Ms. Ossiander,  Mr. Rose, and people in the                                                               
communities to give  [the legislature] some help  and latitude in                                                               
understanding that the  state cannot fund [programs]  as was done                                                               
in the past.  Representative Gatto  said although he hates to cut                                                               
education,  the   goal  at   this  point   is  to   minimize  the                                                               
difficulties rather  than have  an increase over  last year.   He                                                               
expressed  appreciation  for Mr.  Rose's  testimony  and said  he                                                               
knows that he has been an  advocate for education a long time and                                                               
has one  interest in his  heart, which  is the best  interest for                                                               
Alaska's kids.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1301                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TIM STEELE, Vice President, Anchorage  School Board, testified on                                                               
CSHB 233(EDU).   He commented that this year is  a different year                                                               
than those  in the past.   When the legislature started  the year                                                               
there  were  a number  of  bills  introduced that  increased  the                                                               
formula;  the board  was  happy about  that.   Furthermore,  most                                                               
everyone  that ran  for re-election,  including the  governor, is                                                               
supportive of education and that  was appreciated.  However, when                                                               
the  board received  the governor's  budget, it  was a  bit of  a                                                               
setback.   Instead of the  board's normal [pitch]  to legislators                                                               
to obtain  some additional funding  to keep pace  with inflation,                                                               
make some growth in terms  of funding, and move towards adequacy,                                                               
the board  focused on  trying to  get a little  back of  what was                                                               
proposed to be eliminated.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEELE  said the conditions  have changed somewhat  even from                                                               
when this body  passed its [operating budget] and  the Senate has                                                               
been able to put  a number of things back.   The climate again is                                                               
changing and it  appears that there is an effort  to increase the                                                               
size of  the pie and  to hold  education to last  year's numbers.                                                               
However, the  district is  still down  in terms  of the  hit that                                                               
will be  taken in  student transportation,  but tuition  has been                                                               
added  back as  well as  the  debt reimbursement.   Although  the                                                               
districts are making some progress,  it is difficult to say thank                                                               
you when  the legislature is  giving the districts just  a little                                                               
bit less than what was received  last year because what is needed                                                               
is some growth.  He told  the committee that the Anchorage School                                                               
Board supports rolling  the LOGs into the  foundation formula and                                                               
the board  appreciates the added  funds to try to  hold districts                                                               
harmless.   Those  items are  very important,  he said.   As  the                                                               
state faces the  times ahead it is important to  have the LOGs in                                                               
the  formula.   Mr.  Steele  said he  knows  the  formula is  not                                                               
protected, but it is better than a grant.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEELE  commented that the  Anchorage School Board  wishes it                                                               
had the extra  funds that the early bills were  going to put into                                                               
the  formula  and  the  LOGs.   That  would  have  provided  some                                                               
progress.  Mr.  Steele specified that the  Anchorage School Board                                                               
does want the  LOGs rolled into the foundation  formula and wants                                                               
to be held harmless, and would  like to see some movement towards                                                               
adequacy.  Therefore,  some additional funding is  necessary.  If                                                               
the $4,128 [base  student allocation] was available  and the LOGs                                                               
were rolled  in, that  would have  been great.   That  would have                                                               
been  some progress  at  least above  the  consumer price  index.                                                               
However, as  it is,  this is  the 12th  of the  last 15  years in                                                               
which the district  has not even had a cost  of living allowance.                                                               
He said progress  is needed.  The cuts to  the district, as small                                                               
as they  are, compared to  the governor's budget are  still going                                                               
to hurt.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEELE  offered  that  the   cuts  are  going  to  hurt  the                                                               
classroom, he highlighted.   The last two years  the district has                                                               
had a little  reprieve from that through the LOGs.   However, now                                                               
the  district is  back to  the position  of not  even making  the                                                               
maintenance budget.   If the legislature can find its  way to put                                                               
some more money  in the budget, the Anchorage  School Board would                                                               
greatly  appreciate   it.    The  Anchorage   School  Board  does                                                               
appreciate  the LOGs,  he reiterated.   He  noted that  Anchorage                                                               
stands  to  gain  the  least  by rolling  the  LOGs  because  the                                                               
district  is at  the base  number in  terms of  the distribution.                                                               
However,  the district  appreciates  what it  has  and will  take                                                               
whatever it can get.  In  summary, Mr. Steele said he appreciates                                                               
the efforts  to increase the size  of the pie, and  hopes that at                                                               
sometime the state  will get to the point where  the district can                                                               
plan and grow.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1589                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE CATHERS, Superintendent,  Valdez School District, testified                                                               
in  support of  CSHB 233(EDU).   He  expressed gratitude  for the                                                               
work that has  gone into this legislation and  told the committee                                                               
that he is  aware of the difficult time this  is for the members.                                                               
He proposed that  this is not the time to  let school funding and                                                               
quality education  suffer.  The reason  he feels this way  is due                                                               
to the  NCLB Act's  challenge to  every school  in the  nation to                                                               
address individual children's needs in  ways that have never been                                                               
done before.   That is a  tremendous vision and his  district has                                                               
embraced  it, although  the district  is  frustrated because  the                                                               
cost of  doing this as well  as all the other  reporting and data                                                               
collecting provisions of the NCLB Act are staggering.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATHERS  offered that  the costs are  more than  his district                                                               
can  bear right  now.   Even  districts that  currently meet  the                                                               
adequate  yearly progress  measure  found in  the  NCLB Act,  are                                                               
going to  have a  very difficult  time passing the  bar as  it is                                                               
progressively raised  under the  bill.  If  the state  is serious                                                               
about the  NCLB Act and every  child succeeding, then now  is the                                                               
time to  protect the services to  those kids.  He  said Alaska is                                                               
anticipating  a lot  of economic  growth and  development in  the                                                               
next 10 years.  Furthermore, it  is very clear that there will be                                                               
a skilled  work force  needed when major  projects come  on line.                                                               
That  work force  will not  be composed  of young  Alaskan adults                                                               
unless the  state is able  to provide programs now  to adequately                                                               
train and  prepare Alaska's  kids to  participate in  that growth                                                               
and opportunity.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATHERS said he thinks it  is important to recognize that the                                                               
kids who are  in elementary school now will be  the people trying                                                               
to get jobs  with the gas line project in  the future.  Investing                                                               
in education now could clearly  be seen as a business investment.                                                               
He indicated that such an investment is necessary.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATHERS  expressed appreciation for AASB's  work in compiling                                                               
all the  antidotal information about  cuts in districts  all over                                                               
the state.   Such information gives a very clear  picture of what                                                               
is really  happening out there.   There are  a lot of  cuts being                                                               
made  that  are truly  cuts  to  essential school  services,  and                                                               
districts throughout  the state are reaching  desperation points.                                                               
He said he does not think  there is great public awareness of the                                                               
problem because  so many  school employees  continue to  fill the                                                               
gaps.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1736                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATHERS commented  that it is important to note  that what is                                                               
being  cut across  the state  are the  core curriculum  classroom                                                               
teachers,  materials and  books for  the classrooms,  and support                                                               
services.   Many districts  have lost  virtually all  the support                                                               
services  they  once had.    If  there  are any  suspicions  that                                                               
schools  are not  lean and  efficient, that  can be  addressed by                                                               
looking at  what is happening  to school  budgets right now.   He                                                               
said that the hold harmless  provision will allow 22 districts to                                                               
receive the same  funding [that they did last year]  and the rest                                                               
of the  districts will be  getting significant  funding increases                                                               
which may  not be  enough to  address their  needs, but  those 22                                                               
districts  will be  forced to  continue to  cut and  it will  not                                                               
represent relief  for them.  He  just wanted the committee  to be                                                               
aware that these  districts will be in no better  shape, but will                                                               
be grateful not to be cut.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1818                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CATHERS told  the  committee that  for  those district,  any                                                               
increased dollars from  other sources are reduced  by 40 percent.                                                               
He said he does not believe  it was the intent of the legislature                                                               
to do  this; however, the way  it works in his  districts is that                                                               
if they get an intensive  special education student, for example,                                                               
a blind  student, while  the district may  be required  to invest                                                               
$60,000 to  meet the needs  of that child, the  intensive funding                                                               
for that  child might only be  $20,000, which is also  reduced by                                                               
40 percent.   So that  reduction is not  just a reduction  in the                                                               
regular formula funding  but is also a reduction  for such things                                                               
as intensive  students or  any increases  within the  formula, so                                                               
that has been  very painful to deal with.   He said that although                                                               
rolling  the LOG  money into  the formula  would result  in a  40                                                               
percent cut,  he supports  it because  it is  the best  thing for                                                               
education  statewide.   He  said  he  represents  one of  the  22                                                               
districts for  which there  will not  be any  monetary increases.                                                               
He suggested  to the committee that  no matter what is  done, all                                                               
decisions  with  finance  are  now  painful,  and  he  urged  the                                                               
committee to dig  deep and make sure that the  state does not let                                                               
go of  the quality  of education  at this  critical time  for the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1873                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARY  FRANCIS,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Council  of  School                                                               
Administrators,  testified  on  CSHB  233(EDU).    She  told  the                                                               
committee   that    she   represents    school   superintendents,                                                               
principals, and  school business  officials.   She said  that she                                                               
does not  have a  great deal  to add to  what the  prior speakers                                                               
have said.   She pointed out  that by increasing the  per student                                                               
allocation, the legislature is doing an admirable thing.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO asked  Eddie Jeans  to comment on  HB 233.   He                                                               
mentioned  that   the  House   Special  Committee   on  Education                                                               
subcommittee,   especially  the   chair  of   that  subcommittee,                                                               
Representative Seaton, did  a lot of work on  the current version                                                               
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1925                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Manager,  School Finance  and  Facilities  Section,                                                               
Education  Support Services,  Department of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development,  testified in  support of  CSHB 233(EDU),  explained                                                               
the formulation of the base  student allocation, and responded to                                                               
questions.   He told the  committee that the CSHB  233(EDU) would                                                               
increase the base student allocation  from $4,010 to $4,168.  The                                                               
way the subcommittee arrived at  that number was by breaking down                                                               
different  components of  money that  are outside  the foundation                                                               
funding  formula  on  a  per  student  basis.    As  the  process                                                               
proceeded, it  was found that  when adding all those  per student                                                               
allocations together,  it did not  translate to the  final number                                                               
in the  bill.   What the  subcommittee focused  on was  the total                                                               
dollars they  were trying to  put back into the  funding formula.                                                               
That  really came  from three  areas.   The first  was the  $23.3                                                               
million  that was  appropriated for  the FY  03 LOGs,  the second                                                               
area was  $6 million that was  appropriated in FY 03  as one-time                                                               
supplemental funding,  and the third  area was from  the proposed                                                               
legislation to eliminate  funding for four year olds  or the "two                                                               
year kindergarten" program of about  $3.9 million; thus they were                                                               
able to  come up  with a  total of  $32.2 million.   He  said his                                                               
staff  worked  on a  spreadsheet  to  find  out  how much  of  an                                                               
increase to the base student  allocation was required in order to                                                               
appropriate $32.2  million.  That  is how the $4,168  was arrived                                                               
at as  the new base  student allocation.   This is  an additional                                                               
$158 per adjusted average daily membership (ADM) in the state.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR GATTO  said that $158 [per adjusted  ADM] equals $32.2                                                               
million, and  remarked that  a way  has been  found to  put $32.2                                                               
million back  into the  education formula.   Part of  these funds                                                               
were the  LOGs - which  were $118, plus $11,  or $129 out  of the                                                               
$158.  A lot  of that money was just moving  from the left pocket                                                               
to the right pocket, he characterized.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2048                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL  noted   that   it  is   not  a   direct                                                               
translation.  He  pointed out that the per  student allocation on                                                               
the LOGs,  when translated into the  foundation formula, actually                                                               
has winners  and losers, and  so the hold harmless  provision was                                                               
added.   He  asked  Mr. Jeans  if that  provision  "buoyed up"  a                                                               
number.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  responded   that  the  $23.3  million   in  LOGs  was                                                               
distributed  on a  per capita  basis  as a  straight head  count.                                                               
Moving the LOGs  into the foundation formula  and distributing it                                                               
on  an adjusted  ADM means  that some  districts lose  funds when                                                               
there is a change from one  distribution method to the other.  To                                                               
address  those   districts  that  would  have   lost  under  that                                                               
scenario, the subcommittee and the  department determined that it                                                               
would need an  addition $2.2 million in additional  funds to hold                                                               
all  districts   harmless  in  making   that  transition.     The                                                               
subcommittee identified  $3.9 million  in savings for  the "four-                                                               
year-old kindergarten"  legislation to  cover that  $2.2 million,                                                               
and  this  leaves an  additional  $1.7  million  to go  into  the                                                               
formula.   That  is how  the  subcommittee arrived  at the  $32.2                                                               
million and provided for the hold harmless provision.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2113                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON commented  that the  $3.9 million  savings                                                               
from the elimination of  the "four-year-old kindergarten" program                                                               
was incorporated in  the budget that the House  passed.  Although                                                               
there is  legislation that is  moving to eliminate  that program,                                                               
the  House  budget  already  includes  that  money  in  education                                                               
funding, but  under a different  section, so the  subcommittee is                                                               
proposing  that  those funds  be  moved  over to  the  foundation                                                               
formula.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO asked for  clarification that the LOGs  were in                                                               
part, but not completely, based on ADM.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS said  that  the  $23.3 million  was  distributed as  a                                                               
straight  head   count;  the  additional  $6   million  that  was                                                               
distributed  outside   the  formula  was  distributed   based  on                                                               
adjusted  ADM.   That is  why  there was  no need  to hold  those                                                               
districts harmless for that $6 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2168                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARY  MARKS, Member,  Anchorage School  Board, testified  on CSHB
233(EDU) and  answered questions  from the  committee.   She told                                                               
the committee  that not  only is  she a  member of  the Anchorage                                                               
School Board,  but she is also  a parent of four  children in the                                                               
district.  She said she is  coming to the committee as a minority                                                               
to  tell members  that  the  LOGs are  being  used  to close  the                                                               
achievement gap.   Native  students barely  achieve any  kinds of                                                               
academic  standards, she  remarked,  adding that  that  is a  big                                                               
concern to her.  The  LOGs help students become achievers through                                                               
the  after-school   programs  because  the  teachers   work  with                                                               
students   to  help   them  believe   in   themselves  and   give                                                               
accountability  and   validation  to   them  that  they   can  be                                                               
successful, all of  which is very important to  communities.  She                                                               
told  the committee  that she  is responsible  for nearly  50,000                                                               
students.   She said  she took an  oath and is  here to  speak on                                                               
behalf of these students.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS said she is fortunate  enough to be in schools with her                                                               
kids and  doing public service.   So learning how to  balance out                                                               
her life, culture, and survival tools  is something to pass on to                                                               
her students  and children, though it  is not an easy  task.  The                                                               
grant monies  not only help  with the after school  programs, but                                                               
the summer school  programs as well.  She added  that the mission                                                               
is to  make sure  students are  reading by the  time they  are in                                                               
third grade.   Without full funding plus more,  the district will                                                               
not be  able to  attain the  expectations of the  NCLB Act.   She                                                               
said that  without these monies she  does not know what  is being                                                               
said to the  kids.  She acknowledged  that it is a  hard task the                                                               
committee  is facing,  and asked  members  to weigh  out all  the                                                               
consequences  and   all  the   information  brought   before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS said that if she  can just reach eight more students to                                                               
help  them  feel  needed  and  connected to  the  school,  it  is                                                               
important because not  all students feel those things.   She told                                                               
the committee  that the LOGs provided  her with more tools.   She                                                               
said JOM (ph)  and BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs)  monies are not                                                               
enough to  close the  achievement gap.   She  said she  needs the                                                               
legislature  to help  do that.    The district  has 92  different                                                               
languages,  and the  bilingual department  and migrant  education                                                               
department are working  together to try to close the  gaps.  With                                                               
the NCLB Act, the district needs even more assistance.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-38, SIDE B                                                                                                            
Number 2387                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARKS  said  she  shared with  corporate  leaders  that  the                                                               
district needs their help.   She said that if there  is no way to                                                               
increase  education  funding,  it   looks  like  a  dysfunctional                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL thanked  Ms. Marks for her  time and oath.                                                               
He said  as he understands  from her testimony that  she believes                                                               
the LOGs give higher focus to  achievement gaps.  He asked if she                                                               
sees the funds more useful in LOGs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS responded that she sees  it from "outside the box."  If                                                               
she is  to go out into  the communities, it is  another tool that                                                               
is available.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL asked  if she  sees  the LOGs  as one  of                                                               
those tools.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS replied that  she does see LOGs as a  tool to bring the                                                               
communities into  the school  and to  find a way  for them  to be                                                               
involved  in the  education process.    She said  she gains  more                                                               
information that she can then disperse into the community.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL said  it  is his  understanding that  the                                                               
LOGs   are  specifically   targeted   at   the  Quality   Schools                                                               
Initiative.   He asked, "Do  you think if  the LOGs are  added to                                                               
the foundation formula that the  local school districts would not                                                               
keep the same focus?"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS said she is sure they would [keep the same focus].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2247                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON explained  that  one of  the problems  the                                                               
subcommittee  had  in developing  a  method  to approach  this  -                                                               
whether to keep them as separate  LOGs or add them to the formula                                                               
- is that local communities are  capped at matching 23 percent of                                                               
the money in  the formula, and money that is  outside the formula                                                               
cannot be matched  by local districts.  So by  rolling this money                                                               
into the  formula -  basically $160  - it  would allow  the local                                                               
districts to  match about $40  to $50.   It allows more  money to                                                               
flow  into education  on a  local level,  whereas if  it is  left                                                               
outside  in  the  LOGs,  the districts  cannot  match  the  funds                                                               
because it is  prohibited by federal law.  He  asked Ms. Marks if                                                               
she  is saying  she  would  rather have  the  $23.3 million  left                                                               
outside  of the  formula  as  LOGs and  not  available for  local                                                               
districts to match.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARKS said  she is  advocating for  increased funding.   She                                                               
said her goal is to close the achievement gap.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  GATTO offered  that  [the  bill] does  increase  the                                                               
formula somewhat; however, the state  is experiencing lean years.                                                               
He asked Ms. Marks if she  has any suggestions on where the state                                                               
would find that money.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARKS said  she  would like  to see  more  money funded  for                                                               
education, but does not have a suggestion on where to get it.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2137                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved  to  report CSHB  233(EDU)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.  There being  no objection, CSHB 233(EDU) was moved                                                               
from  the House  Health, Education  and Social  Services Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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